MSI P65 Creator 9SF (i9-9880H, RTX2070 Max-Q) 笔记本电脑评测

Name: MSI P65 Creator 9SF-657
Brand: MSI

献给那些需要性能的创作者们。 MSI P65 Creator主要面向的是需要具有高性能硬件和功能的笔记本电脑的内容创作者。但是由于附带的RTX显卡，游戏玩家对这款设备也会感到同样满意——特别是因为它的设计比大多数游戏设备更低调。在我们的评测中了解MSI P65 9SF的其他信息。

Mike Wobker, 👁 Sebastian Jentsch (translated by Zewei Shen), Published 07/29/2019 🇺🇸 🇩🇪 ...

Gaming Geforce Laptop / Notebook MSI

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MSI P65 Creator 9SF-657 (P65 Series)

Processor

Intel Core i9-9880H 8 x 2.3 - 4.8 GHz, Coffee Lake-H

Graphics adapter

NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2070 Max-Q - 8 GB VRAM, Core: 300 MHz, Memory: 405 MHz, TU106M, GeForce 430.64, Intel UHD Graphics 630

Memory

32 GB

, DDR4双通道

Display

15.60 inch 16:9, 3840 x 2160 pixel 283 PPI, AU Optronics AUO41EB, IPS, glossy: no

Mainboard

Intel Cannon Lake HM370

Storage

2x Samsung SSD PM981 MZVLB512HAJQ (RAID 0), 1024 GB

, 880 GB free

Soundcard

Intel Cannon Lake-H/S - cAVS (Audio, Voice, Speech)

Connections

3 USB 3.1 Gen2, 1 Thunderbolt, 1 HDMI, 1 DisplayPort, 1 Kensington Lock, Audio Connections: 1个麦克风，1个耳机接口, 1 Fingerprint Reader

Networking

Qualcomm Atheros AR8171/8175 PCI-E Gigabit Ethernet (10/100/1000MBit/s), Intel Cannon Lake-H/S CNVi: WiFi (a/b/g/n = Wi-Fi 4/ac = Wi-Fi 5/), Bluetooth 5

Size

height x width x depth (in mm): 18 x 357 x 247

Battery

82 Wh Lithium-Ion

Operating System

Microsoft Windows 10 Pro 64 Bit

Additional features

Speakers: 2, Keyboard: 巧克力键盘, Keyboard Light: yes, MSI Creator Center, MSI Driver & App Helper, Photo Director 8, Power Director, 24 Months Warranty

Weight

1.9 kg, Power Supply: 908 g

Price

3200 Euro

Links

MSI homepage
MSI notebook section

Note: The manufacturer may use components from different suppliers including display panels, drives or memory sticks with similar specifications.

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Size Comparison

SCHENKER XMG Ultra 15 Turing Asus Zephyrus S GX502GW MSI P65 Creator 9SF-657 Gigabyte Aero 15-X9 Razer Blade 15 RTX 2070 Max-Q DIN A4 ❌

Left: Kensington Lock, RJ45-LAN, 2x USB 3.1, headphones, microphone

Right: USB 3.1, Thunderbolt 3, MiniDisplayPort, HDMI, DC-in

Networking
iperf3 transmit AX12
Asus Zephyrus S GX502GW Intel Wireless-AC 9560	683 MBit/s +5%
Gigabyte Aero 15-X9 Killer Wireless-AC 1550i Wireless Network Adapter (9560NGW)	680 MBit/s +5%
Razer Blade 15 RTX 2070 Max-Q Intel Wireless-AC 9560	655 MBit/s +1%
SCHENKER XMG Ultra 15 Turing Killer Wireless-AC 1550 Wireless Network Adapter	654 MBit/s +1%
MSI P65 Creator 9SF-657 Intel Cannon Lake-H/S CNVi: WiFi	650 (629^min - 713^max) MBit/s
Average of class Multimedia (285 - 998, n=2, last 2 years)	642 MBit/s -1%
iperf3 receive AX12
Average of class Multimedia (1017 - 1675, n=2, last 2 years)	1346 MBit/s +175%
SCHENKER XMG Ultra 15 Turing Killer Wireless-AC 1550 Wireless Network Adapter	693 MBit/s +41%
Razer Blade 15 RTX 2070 Max-Q Intel Wireless-AC 9560	684 MBit/s +40%
Asus Zephyrus S GX502GW Intel Wireless-AC 9560	680 MBit/s +39%
Gigabyte Aero 15-X9 Killer Wireless-AC 1550i Wireless Network Adapter (9560NGW)	678 MBit/s +38%
MSI P65 Creator 9SF-657 Intel Cannon Lake-H/S CNVi: WiFi	490 (376^min - 596^max) MBit/s

MSI P65 Creator 9SF-657; iperf3 receive AX12; iperf 3.1.3: Ø489 (376-596)

MSI P65 Creator 9SF-657; iperf3 transmit AX12: Ø650 (629-713)


444 cd/m²	421 cd/m²	426 cd/m²
505 cd/m²	445 cd/m²	480 cd/m²
469 cd/m²	470 cd/m²	497 cd/m²

Distribution of brightness

AU Optronics AUO41EB tested with X-Rite i1Pro 2

Maximum: 505 cd/m² (Nits) Average: 461.9 cd/m² Minimum: 0.3 cd/m²
Brightness Distribution: 83 %
Center on Battery: 476 cd/m²
Contrast: 890:1 (Black: 0.5 cd/m²)
ΔE Color 4.75 | 0.5-29.43 Ø5
ΔE Greyscale 4.49 | 0.57-98 Ø5.3
100% sRGB (Argyll 1.6.3 3D)
87% AdobeRGB 1998 (Argyll 1.6.3 3D)
98.5% AdobeRGB 1998 (Argyll 2.2.0 3D)
100% sRGB (Argyll 2.2.0 3D)
84.4% Display P3 (Argyll 2.2.0 3D)
Gamma: 2.49

Download ICC File (X-Rite i1Pro 2)

	MSI P65 Creator 9SF-657 AU Optronics AUO41EB, , 3840x2160, 15.60	Razer Blade 15 RTX 2070 Max-Q LG Philips LGD05C0, , 1920x1080, 15.60	Asus Zephyrus S GX502GW AU Optronics B156HAN08.2 (AUO82ED), , 1920x1080, 15.60	SCHENKER XMG Ultra 15 Turing AU Optronics B156HAN07.0 (AUO70ED), , 1920x1080, 15.60	Gigabyte Aero 15-X9 LGD05C0, , 1920x1080, 15.60
Display		-20%	-22%	-20%	-22%
Display P3 Coverage	84.4	65.3 -23%	64.9 -23%	66.1 -22%	63.5 -25%
sRGB Coverage	100	94.9 -5%	91 -9%	92.6 -7%	93.1 -7%
AdobeRGB 1998 Coverage	98.5	66.3 -33%	65.9 -33%	67.1 -32%	64.5 -35%
Response Times		65%	79%	62%	62%
Response Time Grey 50% / Grey 80% *	51 ?(24, 27)	16.8 ?(9.2, 7.6) 67%	7.2 ?(3.8, 3.4) 86%	17.6 ?(9.2, 8.4) 65%	16.4 ?(8.8, 7.6) 68%
Response Time Black / White *	31 ?(18, 13)	11.6 ?(7.2, 4.4) 63%	8.8 ?(4.4, 4.4) 72%	12.8 ?(7.6, 5.2) 59%	13.6 ?(8.4, 5.2) 56%
PWM Frequency
Screen		4%	5%	2%	12%
Brightness middle	445	314.7 -29%	286 -36%	263 -41%	250 -44%
Brightness	462	312 -32%	275 -40%	264 -43%	235 -49%
Brightness Distribution	83	90 8%	90 8%	89 7%	85 2%
Black Level *	0.5	0.38 24%	0.37 26%	0.17 66%	0.29 42%
Contrast	890	828 -7%	773 -13%	1547 74%	862 -3%
Colorchecker dE 2000 *	4.75	2.56 46%	2.19 54%	4.45 6%	1.46 69%
Colorchecker dE 2000 max. *	7.79	4.89 37%	4.4 44%	8.33 -7%	2.47 68%
Greyscale dE 2000 *	4.49	3.4 24%	2.2 51%	4.77 -6%	1.27 72%
Gamma	2.49 ^88%	2.3 ^96%	2.41 ^91%	2.52 ^87%	2.4 ^92%
CCT	7374 ^88%	6435 ^101%	6405 ^101%	7767 ^84%	6749 ^96%
Color Space (Percent of AdobeRGB 1998)	87	60.7 -30%	59 -32%	60 -31%	60 -31%
Color Space (Percent of sRGB)	100	94.6 -5%	91 -9%	93 -7%	93 -7%
Colorchecker dE 2000 calibrated *		1.71	2.27	1.93
Total Average (Program / Settings)		16% / 7%	21% / 10%	15% / 5%	17% / 12%

* ... smaller is better

Display Response Times

ℹ

Display response times show how fast the screen is able to change from one color to the next. Slow response times can lead to afterimages and can cause moving objects to appear blurry (ghosting). Gamers of fast-paced 3D titles should pay special attention to fast response times.

↔ Response Time Black to White
31 ms ... rise ↗ and fall ↘ combined	↗ 18 ms rise
31 ms ... rise ↗ and fall ↘ combined	↘ 13 ms fall
The screen shows slow response rates in our tests and will be unsatisfactory for gamers. In comparison, all tested devices range from 0.1 (minimum) to 240 (maximum) ms. » 82 % of all devices are better. This means that the measured response time is worse than the average of all tested devices (21.5 ms).
↔ Response Time 50% Grey to 80% Grey
51 ms ... rise ↗ and fall ↘ combined	↗ 24 ms rise
51 ms ... rise ↗ and fall ↘ combined	↘ 27 ms fall
The screen shows slow response rates in our tests and will be unsatisfactory for gamers. In comparison, all tested devices range from 0.2 (minimum) to 636 (maximum) ms. » 86 % of all devices are better. This means that the measured response time is worse than the average of all tested devices (33.7 ms).

Screen Flickering / PWM (Pulse-Width Modulation)

ℹ

To dim the screen, some notebooks will simply cycle the backlight on and off in rapid succession - a method called Pulse Width Modulation (PWM) . This cycling frequency should ideally be undetectable to the human eye. If said frequency is too low, users with sensitive eyes may experience strain or headaches or even notice the flickering altogether.

Screen flickering / PWM not detected

In comparison: 53 % of all tested devices do not use PWM to dim the display. If PWM was detected, an average of 17909 (minimum: 5 - maximum: 3846000) Hz was measured.

MSI P65 Creator 9SF-657 Intel Core i9-9880H, Intel Core i9-9880H: Ø1439 (1417.84-1545.36)

Razer Blade 15 RTX 2070 Max-Q Intel Core i7-8750H, Intel Core i7-8750H: Ø922 (913.2-999)

Gigabyte Aero 15-X9 Intel Core i7-8750H, Intel Core i7-8750H: Ø1095 (1087.31-1156.25)

SCHENKER XMG Ultra 15 Turing Intel Core i7-9700K, Intel Core i7-9700K: Ø1449 (1441.6-1465.07)

Asus Zephyrus S GX502GW Intel Core i7-9750H, Intel Core i7-9750H: Ø1040 (1017.76-1182)

Cinebench R15
CPU Single 64Bit
Average of class Multimedia (142.6 - 308, n=98, last 2 years)	251 Points +28%
SCHENKER XMG Ultra 15 Turing Intel Core i7-9700K	203 Points +4%
MSI P65 Creator 9SF-657 Intel Core i9-9880H	196 Points
Average Intel Core i9-9880H (181 - 198, n=11)	190.1 Points -3%
Asus Zephyrus S GX502GW Intel Core i7-9750H	177 Points -10%
Razer Blade 15 RTX 2070 Max-Q Intel Core i7-8750H	174 Points -11%
Gigabyte Aero 15-X9 Intel Core i7-8750H	166 Points -15%
CPU Multi 64Bit
Average of class Multimedia (785 - 4703, n=105, last 2 years)	2317 Points +50%
MSI P65 Creator 9SF-657 Intel Core i9-9880H	1545 Points
Average Intel Core i9-9880H (1317 - 1721, n=11)	1506 Points -3%
SCHENKER XMG Ultra 15 Turing Intel Core i7-9700K	1465 Points -5%
Asus Zephyrus S GX502GW Intel Core i7-9750H	1182 Points -23%
Gigabyte Aero 15-X9 Intel Core i7-8750H	1156 Points -25%
Razer Blade 15 RTX 2070 Max-Q Intel Core i7-8750H	999 Points -35%

Cinebench R15 CPU Single 64Bit

196 Points

Cinebench R15 CPU Multi 64Bit

1545 Points

Cinebench R15 OpenGL 64Bit

130 fps

Cinebench R15 Ref. Match 64Bit

99.6 %

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... in comparison

PCMark 10 | PCMark 8

PCMark 10
Score
SCHENKER XMG Ultra 15 Turing GeForce RTX 2070 Mobile, i7-9700K, Samsung SSD 970 EVO Plus 1TB	6868 Points +32%
Average of class Multimedia (4635 - 8670, n=83, last 2 years)	6586 Points +26%
Asus Zephyrus S GX502GW GeForce RTX 2070 Mobile, i7-9750H, 2x Intel SSD 660p SSDPEKNW512G8 (RAID 0)	5654 Points +9%
Razer Blade 15 RTX 2070 Max-Q GeForce RTX 2070 Max-Q, i7-8750H, Samsung SSD PM981 MZVLB512HAJQ	5416 Points +4%
Gigabyte Aero 15-X9 GeForce RTX 2070 Max-Q, i7-8750H, Intel SSD 760p SSDPEKKW010T8	5353 Points +3%
MSI P65 Creator 9SF-657 GeForce RTX 2070 Max-Q, i9-9880H, 2x Samsung SSD PM981 MZVLB512HAJQ (RAID 0)	5211 Points
Average Intel Core i9-9880H, NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2070 Max-Q ()	5211 Points 0%
Essentials
Average of class Multimedia (8480 - 12420, n=83, last 2 years)	10459 Points +17%
SCHENKER XMG Ultra 15 Turing GeForce RTX 2070 Mobile, i7-9700K, Samsung SSD 970 EVO Plus 1TB	10356 Points +16%
Asus Zephyrus S GX502GW GeForce RTX 2070 Mobile, i7-9750H, 2x Intel SSD 660p SSDPEKNW512G8 (RAID 0)	9231 Points +3%
MSI P65 Creator 9SF-657 GeForce RTX 2070 Max-Q, i9-9880H, 2x Samsung SSD PM981 MZVLB512HAJQ (RAID 0)	8961 Points
Average Intel Core i9-9880H, NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2070 Max-Q ()	8961 Points 0%
Gigabyte Aero 15-X9 GeForce RTX 2070 Max-Q, i7-8750H, Intel SSD 760p SSDPEKKW010T8	8600 Points -4%
Razer Blade 15 RTX 2070 Max-Q GeForce RTX 2070 Max-Q, i7-8750H, Samsung SSD PM981 MZVLB512HAJQ	8517 Points -5%
Productivity
Average of class Multimedia (5845 - 11186, n=83, last 2 years)	8708 Points +45%
SCHENKER XMG Ultra 15 Turing GeForce RTX 2070 Mobile, i7-9700K, Samsung SSD 970 EVO Plus 1TB	8572 Points +43%
Asus Zephyrus S GX502GW GeForce RTX 2070 Mobile, i7-9750H, 2x Intel SSD 660p SSDPEKNW512G8 (RAID 0)	7661 Points +28%
Razer Blade 15 RTX 2070 Max-Q GeForce RTX 2070 Max-Q, i7-8750H, Samsung SSD PM981 MZVLB512HAJQ	7547 Points +26%
Gigabyte Aero 15-X9 GeForce RTX 2070 Max-Q, i7-8750H, Intel SSD 760p SSDPEKKW010T8	7315 Points +22%
MSI P65 Creator 9SF-657 GeForce RTX 2070 Max-Q, i9-9880H, 2x Samsung SSD PM981 MZVLB512HAJQ (RAID 0)	5986 Points
Average Intel Core i9-9880H, NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2070 Max-Q ()	5986 Points 0%
Digital Content Creation
SCHENKER XMG Ultra 15 Turing GeForce RTX 2070 Mobile, i7-9700K, Samsung SSD 970 EVO Plus 1TB	9904 Points +38%
Average of class Multimedia (4688 - 13548, n=83, last 2 years)	8636 Points +21%
MSI P65 Creator 9SF-657 GeForce RTX 2070 Max-Q, i9-9880H, 2x Samsung SSD PM981 MZVLB512HAJQ (RAID 0)	7161 Points
Average Intel Core i9-9880H, NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2070 Max-Q ()	7161 Points 0%
Asus Zephyrus S GX502GW GeForce RTX 2070 Mobile, i7-9750H, 2x Intel SSD 660p SSDPEKNW512G8 (RAID 0)	6936 Points -3%
Razer Blade 15 RTX 2070 Max-Q GeForce RTX 2070 Max-Q, i7-8750H, Samsung SSD PM981 MZVLB512HAJQ	6708 Points -6%
Gigabyte Aero 15-X9 GeForce RTX 2070 Max-Q, i7-8750H, Intel SSD 760p SSDPEKKW010T8	6618 Points -8%

PCMark 8
Home Score Accelerated v2
SCHENKER XMG Ultra 15 Turing GeForce RTX 2070 Mobile, i7-9700K, Samsung SSD 970 EVO Plus 1TB	5485 Points +56%
Average of class Multimedia (4484 - 5583, n=10, last 2 years)	5126 Points +46%
Gigabyte Aero 15-X9 GeForce RTX 2070 Max-Q, i7-8750H, Intel SSD 760p SSDPEKKW010T8	4338 Points +24%
Razer Blade 15 RTX 2070 Max-Q GeForce RTX 2070 Max-Q, i7-8750H, Samsung SSD PM981 MZVLB512HAJQ	4150 Points +18%
MSI P65 Creator 9SF-657 GeForce RTX 2070 Max-Q, i9-9880H, 2x Samsung SSD PM981 MZVLB512HAJQ (RAID 0)	3505 Points
Average Intel Core i9-9880H, NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2070 Max-Q ()	3505 Points 0%
Work Score Accelerated v2
SCHENKER XMG Ultra 15 Turing GeForce RTX 2070 Mobile, i7-9700K, Samsung SSD 970 EVO Plus 1TB	6258 Points +40%
Gigabyte Aero 15-X9 GeForce RTX 2070 Max-Q, i7-8750H, Intel SSD 760p SSDPEKKW010T8	5645 Points +26%
Razer Blade 15 RTX 2070 Max-Q GeForce RTX 2070 Max-Q, i7-8750H, Samsung SSD PM981 MZVLB512HAJQ	5607 Points +25%
Average of class Multimedia (3115 - 6078, n=10, last 2 years)	5081 Points +13%
MSI P65 Creator 9SF-657 GeForce RTX 2070 Max-Q, i9-9880H, 2x Samsung SSD PM981 MZVLB512HAJQ (RAID 0)	4482 Points
Average Intel Core i9-9880H, NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2070 Max-Q ()	4482 Points 0%

PCMark 8 Home Score Accelerated v2		3505 points
PCMark 8 Work Score Accelerated v2		4482 points
PCMark 10 Score		5211 points
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	MSI P65 Creator 9SF-657 2x Samsung SSD PM981 MZVLB512HAJQ (RAID 0)	Razer Blade 15 RTX 2070 Max-Q Samsung SSD PM981 MZVLB512HAJQ	Asus Zephyrus S GX502GW 2x Intel SSD 660p SSDPEKNW512G8 (RAID 0)	SCHENKER XMG Ultra 15 Turing Samsung SSD 970 EVO Plus 1TB	Gigabyte Aero 15-X9 Intel SSD 760p SSDPEKKW010T8	Average 2x Samsung SSD PM981 MZVLB512HAJQ (RAID 0)
CrystalDiskMark 5.2 / 6		-32%	-24%	-17%	-31%	-7%
Write 4K	105.6	93.9 -11%	97 -8%	129.9 23%	97.1 -8%	98.6 ?(86.3 - 105.6, n=3) -7%
Read 4K	46.32	40.56 -12%	49.58 7%	47.15 2%	53.7 16%	42.5 ?(39.5 - 46.3, n=3) -8%
Write Seq	2910	1468 -50%	1838 -37%	1840 -37%	1526 -48%	2804 ?(2639 - 2910, n=3) -4%
Read Seq	2820	1540 -45%	2421 -14%	1775 -37%	2020 -28%	2806 ?(2702 - 2896, n=3) 0%
Write 4K Q32T1	545	293.5 -46%	326.9 -40%	294.5 -46%	285.6 -48%	446 ?(305 - 545, n=3) -18%
Read 4K Q32T1	632	346 -45%	372.9 -41%	373.6 -41%	321.8 -49%	512 ?(350 - 632, n=3) -19%
Write Seq Q32T1	3349	1941 -42%	1894 -43%	3295 -2%	1533 -54%	3252 ?(2967 - 3440, n=3) -3%
Read Seq Q32T1	3333	3266 -2%	2828 -15%	3535 6%	2351 -29%	3324 ?(3102 - 3537, n=3) 0%
AS SSD		-4%	-24%	19%	-34%	-5%
Seq Read	2860	1840 -36%	2506 -12%	2739 -4%	2113 -26%	2811 ?(2568 - 3005, n=3) -2%
Seq Write	2604	1822 -30%	1712 -34%	2650 2%	1471 -44%	2627 ?(2604 - 2668, n=3) 1%
4K Read	45.15	52.3 16%	48.32 7%	27.86 -38%	55 22%	42.4 ?(40.9 - 45.2, n=3) -6%
4K Write	100.2	110.7 10%	103.6 3%	134.7 34%	107.1 7%	97.5 ?(94.4 - 100.2, n=3) -3%
4K-64 Read	1428	1126 -21%	624 -56%	1651 16%	914 -36%	1382 ?(1352 - 1428, n=3) -3%
4K-64 Write	1401	1717 23%	1253 -11%	2190 56%	703 -50%	1245 ?(1138 - 1401, n=3) -11%
Access Time Read *	0.049	0.047 4%	0.08 -63%	0.031 37%	0.114 -133%	0.05367 ?(0.049 - 0.057, n=3) -10%
Access Time Write *	0.037	0.033 11%	0.04 -8%	0.028 24%	0.034 8%	0.038 ?(0.037 - 0.039, n=3) -3%
Score Read	1759	1362 -23%	923 -48%	1953 11%	1180 -33%	1706 ?(1650 - 1759, n=3) -3%
Score Write	1762	2010 14%	1528 -13%	2590 47%	957 -46%	1605 ?(1496 - 1762, n=3) -9%
Score Total	4411	4079 -8%	2896 -34%	5529 25%	2722 -38%	4176 ?(3994 - 4411, n=3) -5%
Copy ISO MB/s		1975		2031	1864
Copy Program MB/s		526		452.1	362.6
Copy Game MB/s		1200		1043	936
Total Average (Program / Settings)		-18% / -15%	-24% / -24%	1% / 4%	-33% / -32%	-6% / -6%

* ... smaller is better

CrystalDiskMark 3.0

CrystalDiskMark 5.2 / 6

AS SSD

2x Samsung SSD PM981 MZVLB512HAJQ (RAID 0)

Sequential Read: 2646 MB/s

Sequential Write: 2859 MB/s

512K Read: 1792 MB/s

512K Write: 2635 MB/s

4K Read: 63 MB/s

4K Write: 112.9 MB/s

4K QD32 Read: 625 MB/s

4K QD32 Write: 564 MB/s

3DMark 11 | 3DMark

3DMark 11 - 1280x720 Performance GPU
SCHENKER XMG Ultra 15 Turing NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2070 Mobile, Intel Core i7-9700K	26975 Points +29%
Asus Zephyrus S GX502GW NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2070 Mobile, Intel Core i7-9750H	24267 Points +16%
Razer Blade 15 RTX 2070 Max-Q NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2070 Max-Q, Intel Core i7-8750H	22723 Points +9%
Average NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2070 Max-Q (14723 - 27694, n=31)	22548 Points +8%
Gigabyte Aero 15-X9 NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2070 Max-Q, Intel Core i7-8750H	22089 Points +6%
MSI P65 Creator 9SF-657 NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2070 Max-Q, Intel Core i9-9880H	20837 Points
Average of class Multimedia (3505 - 60250, n=87, last 2 years)	18743 Points -10%

3DMark
1280x720 Cloud Gate Standard Graphics
SCHENKER XMG Ultra 15 Turing NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2070 Mobile, Intel Core i7-9700K	134326 Points +104%
Asus Zephyrus S GX502GW NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2070 Mobile, Intel Core i7-9750H	109473 Points +66%
Razer Blade 15 RTX 2070 Max-Q NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2070 Max-Q, Intel Core i7-8750H	106170 Points +61%
Average NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2070 Max-Q (39014 - 134255, n=28)	94310 Points +43%
Gigabyte Aero 15-X9 NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2070 Max-Q, Intel Core i7-8750H	73366 Points +11%
MSI P65 Creator 9SF-657 NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2070 Max-Q, Intel Core i9-9880H	65859 Points
Average of class Multimedia (14679 - 150699, n=60, last 2 years)	58293 Points -11%
1920x1080 Fire Strike Graphics
SCHENKER XMG Ultra 15 Turing NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2070 Mobile, Intel Core i7-9700K	20759 Points +29%
Asus Zephyrus S GX502GW NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2070 Mobile, Intel Core i7-9750H	19123 Points +19%
Razer Blade 15 RTX 2070 Max-Q NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2070 Max-Q, Intel Core i7-8750H	18153 Points +13%
Gigabyte Aero 15-X9 NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2070 Max-Q, Intel Core i7-8750H	17598 Points +9%
Average NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2070 Max-Q (11563 - 21191, n=31)	17489 Points +9%
MSI P65 Creator 9SF-657 NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2070 Max-Q, Intel Core i9-9880H	16100 Points
Average of class Multimedia (1835 - 46022, n=88, last 2 years)	13863 Points -14%

3DMark 11 Performance		19440 points
3DMark Cloud Gate Standard Score		36379 points
3DMark Fire Strike Score		14946 points
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The Witcher 3 | Thief | BioShock Infinite | Dota 2 Reborn

The Witcher 3
1024x768 Low Graphics & Postprocessing
SCHENKER XMG Ultra 15 Turing Intel Core i7-9700K, NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2070 Mobile	331.2 fps +12%
MSI P65 Creator 9SF-657 Intel Core i9-9880H, NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2070 Max-Q	295.7 fps
Average NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2070 Max-Q (177.7 - 356, n=18)	280 fps -5%
Razer Blade 15 RTX 2070 Max-Q Intel Core i7-8750H, NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2070 Max-Q	252.5 fps -15%
Average of class Multimedia (36 - 428, n=63, last 2 years)	206 fps -30%
Gigabyte Aero 15-X9 Intel Core i7-8750H, NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2070 Max-Q	177.7 fps -40%
1366x768 Medium Graphics & Postprocessing
SCHENKER XMG Ultra 15 Turing Intel Core i7-9700K, NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2070 Mobile	223.1 fps +8%
Razer Blade 15 RTX 2070 Max-Q Intel Core i7-8750H, NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2070 Max-Q	208.9 fps +2%
Average NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2070 Max-Q (144.9 - 254, n=18)	206 fps 0%
MSI P65 Creator 9SF-657 Intel Core i9-9880H, NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2070 Max-Q	205.8 fps
Gigabyte Aero 15-X9 Intel Core i7-8750H, NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2070 Max-Q	144.9 fps -30%
Average of class Multimedia (23 - 327, n=63, last 2 years)	139.3 fps -32%
1920x1080 High Graphics & Postprocessing (Nvidia HairWorks Off)
Razer Blade 15 RTX 2070 Max-Q Intel Core i7-8750H, NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2070 Max-Q	130.1 fps +12%
Asus Zephyrus S GX502GW Intel Core i7-9750H, NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2070 Mobile	130 (108^min) fps +12%
SCHENKER XMG Ultra 15 Turing Intel Core i7-9700K, NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2070 Mobile	128.4 fps +10%
Average NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2070 Max-Q (86.5 - 151.4, n=22)	121 fps +4%
MSI P65 Creator 9SF-657 Intel Core i9-9880H, NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2070 Max-Q	116.5 fps
Average of class Multimedia (11.2 - 290, n=91, last 2 years)	94.3 fps -19%
Gigabyte Aero 15-X9 Intel Core i7-8750H, NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2070 Max-Q	86.5 fps -26%
1920x1080 Ultra Graphics & Postprocessing (HBAO+)
MSI P65 Creator 9SF-657 Intel Core i9-9880H, NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2070 Max-Q	80.8 fps
SCHENKER XMG Ultra 15 Turing Intel Core i7-9700K, NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2070 Mobile	73 (60^min) fps -10%
Asus Zephyrus S GX502GW Intel Core i7-9750H, NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2070 Mobile	70.2 (58^min) fps -13%
Razer Blade 15 RTX 2070 Max-Q Intel Core i7-8750H, NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2070 Max-Q	68.9 fps -15%
Average NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2070 Max-Q (56 - 83.8, n=31)	66.3 fps -18%
Gigabyte Aero 15-X9 Intel Core i7-8750H, NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2070 Max-Q	58.3 (48^min) fps -28%
Average of class Multimedia (8 - 143.2, n=98, last 2 years)	50.8 fps -37%

Thief
1920x1080 Very High Preset AA:FXAA & High SS AF:8x
Average NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2070 Max-Q (99 - 103, n=2)	101 fps +2%
MSI P65 Creator 9SF-657 Intel Core i9-9880H, NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2070 Max-Q	99 fps
1366x768 High Preset AA:FXAA & Low SS AF:4x
MSI P65 Creator 9SF-657 Intel Core i9-9880H, NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2070 Max-Q	128.7 fps
Average NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2070 Max-Q ()	128.7 fps 0%
1366x768 Normal Preset AA:FX
MSI P65 Creator 9SF-657 Intel Core i9-9880H, NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2070 Max-Q	131.6 fps
Average NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2070 Max-Q ()	131.6 fps 0%
1024x768 Very Low Preset
MSI P65 Creator 9SF-657 Intel Core i9-9880H, NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2070 Max-Q	134.8 fps
Average NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2070 Max-Q ()	134.8 fps 0%

BioShock Infinite
1920x1080 Ultra Preset, DX11 (DDOF)
SCHENKER XMG Ultra 15 Turing Intel Core i7-9700K, NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2070 Mobile	187.8 fps +26%
Razer Blade 15 RTX 2070 Max-Q Intel Core i7-8750H, NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2070 Max-Q	152.5 fps +2%
Average NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2070 Max-Q (115.8 - 211, n=15)	150.1 fps +1%
MSI P65 Creator 9SF-657 Intel Core i9-9880H, NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2070 Max-Q	148.8 fps
Gigabyte Aero 15-X9 Intel Core i7-8750H, NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2070 Max-Q	127.7 fps -14%
1366x768 High Preset
SCHENKER XMG Ultra 15 Turing Intel Core i7-9700K, NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2070 Mobile	320.9 fps +16%
MSI P65 Creator 9SF-657 Intel Core i9-9880H, NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2070 Max-Q	277.2 fps
Average NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2070 Max-Q (203 - 297, n=14)	250 fps -10%
Razer Blade 15 RTX 2070 Max-Q Intel Core i7-8750H, NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2070 Max-Q	246.1 fps -11%
Gigabyte Aero 15-X9 Intel Core i7-8750H, NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2070 Max-Q	202.6 fps -27%
1366x768 Medium Preset
SCHENKER XMG Ultra 15 Turing Intel Core i7-9700K, NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2070 Mobile	346 fps +19%
MSI P65 Creator 9SF-657 Intel Core i9-9880H, NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2070 Max-Q	291.8 fps
Average NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2070 Max-Q (218 - 318, n=14)	268 fps -8%
Razer Blade 15 RTX 2070 Max-Q Intel Core i7-8750H, NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2070 Max-Q	260.1 fps -11%
Gigabyte Aero 15-X9 Intel Core i7-8750H, NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2070 Max-Q	217.9 fps -25%
1280x720 Very Low Preset
SCHENKER XMG Ultra 15 Turing Intel Core i7-9700K, NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2070 Mobile	400.7 fps +8%
MSI P65 Creator 9SF-657 Intel Core i9-9880H, NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2070 Max-Q	369.7 fps
Average NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2070 Max-Q (234 - 376, n=14)	308 fps -17%
Razer Blade 15 RTX 2070 Max-Q Intel Core i7-8750H, NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2070 Max-Q	290.8 fps -21%
Gigabyte Aero 15-X9 Intel Core i7-8750H, NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2070 Max-Q	233.9 fps -37%

Dota 2 Reborn
1920x1080 ultra (3/3) best looking
Average NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2070 Max-Q (105.8 - 126, n=13)	119.2 fps +2%
MSI P65 Creator 9SF-657 Intel Core i9-9880H, NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2070 Max-Q	117.4 (102.7^min) fps
Average of class Multimedia (26.3 - 171.6, n=89, last 2 years)	101.9 fps -13%
1920x1080 high (2/3)
Average NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2070 Max-Q (111.4 - 135, n=13)	126.5 fps +3%
MSI P65 Creator 9SF-657 Intel Core i9-9880H, NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2070 Max-Q	122.9 (108.7^min) fps
Average of class Multimedia (28 - 184.4, n=89, last 2 years)	109.5 fps -11%
1366x768 med (1/3)
Average NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2070 Max-Q (117.4 - 141, n=13)	133 fps +1%
MSI P65 Creator 9SF-657 Intel Core i9-9880H, NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2070 Max-Q	131.4 (115.6^min) fps
Average of class Multimedia (36.7 - 192.8, n=86, last 2 years)	123.3 fps -6%
1280x720 min (0/3) fastest
Average NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2070 Max-Q (126.5 - 164, n=13)	146.8 fps +3%
MSI P65 Creator 9SF-657 Intel Core i9-9880H, NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2070 Max-Q	142.2 (126.5^min) fps
Average of class Multimedia (37.2 - 215, n=86, last 2 years)	141.2 fps -1%

MSI P65 Creator 9SF-657 GeForce RTX 2070 Max-Q, i9-9880H, 2x Samsung SSD PM981 MZVLB512HAJQ (RAID 0): Ø76.3 (71-83)

	low	med.	high	ultra	4K
BioShock Infinite (2013)	369.7	291.8	277.2	148.8
Thief (2014)	134.8	131.6	128.7	99
The Witcher 3 (2015)	295.7	205.8	116.5	80.8	42.3
Dota 2 Reborn (2015)	142.2	131.4	122.9	117.4

Noise Level

Idle		32.8 / 32.8 / 33.6 dB(A)
Load		40.9 / 42.7 dB(A)

	30 dB silent 40 dB(A) audible 50 dB(A) loud
min: , med: , max: Audix TM1, Arta (15 cm distance) environment noise: 30.2 dB(A)

Max. Load

Idle


45.7 °C	49.5 °C	46.8 °C
40.3 °C	49.7 °C	47.8 °C
31.3 °C	31.3 °C	34.9 °C

Maximum: 49.7 °C
Average: 41.9 °C


54.3 °C	60.4 °C	43 °C
44.4 °C	47.1 °C	40.6 °C
36.3 °C	37.1 °C	34.4 °C

Maximum: 60.4 °C
Average: 44.2 °C

Power Supply (max.) 46 °C | Room Temperature 22.7 °C | FIRT 550-Pocket

(-) The average temperature for the upper side under maximal load is 41.9 °C / 107 F, compared to the average of 31.2 °C / 88 F for the devices in the class Multimedia.
(-) The maximum temperature on the upper side is 49.7 °C / 121 F, compared to the average of 36.9 °C / 98 F, ranging from 21.1 to 71 °C for the class Multimedia.
(-) The bottom heats up to a maximum of 60.4 °C / 141 F, compared to the average of 39.1 °C / 102 F
(+) In idle usage, the average temperature for the upper side is 26.8 °C / 80 F, compared to the device average of 31.2 °C / 88 F.
(+) The palmrests and touchpad are reaching skin temperature as a maximum (34.9 °C / 94.8 F) and are therefore not hot.
(-) The average temperature of the palmrest area of similar devices was 28.8 °C / 83.8 F (-6.1 °C / -11 F).

Frequency diagram (checkboxes can be checked and unchecked to compare devices)

MSI P65 Creator 9SF-657 audio analysis

(±) | speaker loudness is average but good (77.4 dB)
Bass 100 - 315 Hz
(-) | nearly no bass - on average 23.6% lower than median
(±) | linearity of bass is average (9.9% delta to prev. frequency)
Mids 400 - 2000 Hz
(±) | higher mids - on average 8.4% higher than median
(±) | linearity of mids is average (7.8% delta to prev. frequency)
Highs 2 - 16 kHz
(±) | higher highs - on average 6% higher than median
(±) | linearity of highs is average (9.3% delta to prev. frequency)
Overall 100 - 16.000 Hz
(±) | linearity of overall sound is average (28.3% difference to median)
Compared to same class
» 93% of all tested devices in this class were better, 2% similar, 5% worse
» The best had a delta of 5%, average was 18%, worst was 45%
Compared to all devices tested
» 83% of all tested devices were better, 3% similar, 14% worse
» The best had a delta of 4%, average was 25%, worst was 134%

Apple MacBook 12 (Early 2016) 1.1 GHz audio analysis

(+) | speakers can play relatively loud (83.6 dB)
Bass 100 - 315 Hz
(±) | reduced bass - on average 11.3% lower than median
(±) | linearity of bass is average (14.2% delta to prev. frequency)
Mids 400 - 2000 Hz
(+) | balanced mids - only 2.4% away from median
(+) | mids are linear (5.5% delta to prev. frequency)
Highs 2 - 16 kHz
(+) | balanced highs - only 2% away from median
(+) | highs are linear (4.5% delta to prev. frequency)
Overall 100 - 16.000 Hz
(+) | overall sound is linear (10.2% difference to median)
Compared to same class
» 5% of all tested devices in this class were better, 2% similar, 93% worse
» The best had a delta of 5%, average was 19%, worst was 53%
Compared to all devices tested
» 3% of all tested devices were better, 1% similar, 96% worse
» The best had a delta of 4%, average was 25%, worst was 134%

Power Consumption

Off / Standby	0.9 / 1.6 Watt
Idle	9.4 / 17.4 / 19.6 Watt
Load	103 / 216 Watt


Key: min: , med: , max: Metrahit Energy Currently we use the Metrahit Energy, a professional single phase power quality and energy measurement digital multimeter, for our measurements. Find out more about it here. All of our test methods can be found here.

	MSI P65 Creator 9SF-657 i9-9880H, GeForce RTX 2070 Max-Q, 2x Samsung SSD PM981 MZVLB512HAJQ (RAID 0), IPS, 3840x2160, 15.60	Razer Blade 15 RTX 2070 Max-Q i7-8750H, GeForce RTX 2070 Max-Q, Samsung SSD PM981 MZVLB512HAJQ, IPS, 1920x1080, 15.60	Asus Zephyrus S GX502GW i7-9750H, GeForce RTX 2070 Mobile, 2x Intel SSD 660p SSDPEKNW512G8 (RAID 0), IPS, 1920x1080, 15.60	SCHENKER XMG Ultra 15 Turing i7-9700K, GeForce RTX 2070 Mobile, Samsung SSD 970 EVO Plus 1TB, IPS, 1920x1080, 15.60	Gigabyte Aero 15-X9 i7-8750H, GeForce RTX 2070 Max-Q, Intel SSD 760p SSDPEKKW010T8, IPS, 1920x1080, 15.60	Average NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2070 Max-Q	Average of class Multimedia
Power Consumption		10%	-61%	-118%	-10%	-22%	30%
Idle Minimum *	9.4	10.4 -11%	24 -155%	35 -272%	16 -70%	15.4 ?(5 - 46, n=26) -64%	7.32 ?(2.2 - 34.6, n=95, last 2 years) 22%
Idle Average *	17.4	14.6 16%	27 -55%	39 -124%	18 -3%	20 ?(10.1 - 59, n=26) -15%	11.8 ?(4.6 - 43, n=95, last 2 years) 32%
Idle Maximum *	19.6	16.3 17%	33 -68%	47 -140%	23 -17%	26.7 ?(12.6 - 65.5, n=26) -36%	14.6 ?(5.6 - 44.9, n=95, last 2 years) 26%
Load Average *	103	88.5 14%	129 -25%	117 -14%	88 15%	105.2 ?(83.4 - 181, n=26) -2%	77.9 ?(14.3 - 147, n=94, last 2 years) 24%
Load Maximum *	216	182.4 16%	216 -0%	299 -38%	167 23%	201 ?(120 - 249, n=26) 7%	120.8 ?(47.7 - 247, n=94, last 2 years) 44%
Witcher 3 ultra *		155.4	176	196	120

* ... smaller is better

Battery Runtime

Idle (without WLAN, min brightness)		9h 37min
WiFi Websurfing		5h 57min
Load (maximum brightness)		1h 05min

	MSI P65 Creator 9SF-657 i9-9880H, GeForce RTX 2070 Max-Q, 82 Wh	Razer Blade 15 RTX 2070 Max-Q i7-8750H, GeForce RTX 2070 Max-Q, 80 Wh	Asus Zephyrus S GX502GW i7-9750H, GeForce RTX 2070 Mobile, 76 Wh	SCHENKER XMG Ultra 15 Turing i7-9700K, GeForce RTX 2070 Mobile, 82 Wh	Gigabyte Aero 15-X9 i7-8750H, GeForce RTX 2070 Max-Q, 94.24 Wh	Average of class Multimedia
Battery Runtime		20%	-27%	-31%	57%	57%
Reader / Idle	577	682 18%	353 -39%	194 -66%	549 -5%	933 ?(506 - 1571, n=25, last 2 years) 62%
WiFi v1.3	357	387 8%	220 -38%	157 -56%	382 7%	568 ?(274 - 1204, n=94, last 2 years) 59%
Load	65	88 35%	62 -5%	83 28%	174 168%	97.3 ?(39 - 215, n=75, last 2 years) 50%
H.264				154	364	698 ?(319 - 1481, n=52, last 2 years)

Pros

+ 屏幕色域广

+ 窄边框

+ 轻量化

+ 紧凑的设计

+ 性能强

+ 雷电3

+ RAID固态

Cons

- RTX 2070 Max-Q TDP低

- 没有什么可维护性

- 没有读卡器

Verdict - compact multimedia notebook with a lot of power

MSI P65 Creator 9SF-657 笔记本电脑评测. Test unit provided by MSI Germany.

我们的评测显示，MSI P65 Creator 9SF是一款结构紧凑的高性能笔电。它的外观完全适合商务环境，做工精良。雷电3端口可确保用户能够继续满足未来的任何端口需求。

MSI P65 Creator 9SF以其迷人的设计和卓越的性能而引人注目。然而，制造商可以选择具有更高TDP的RTX 2070。

系统性能优秀，可以轻松跟上大多数竞争对手。然而，其他制造商却能设法从GPU中获得更多，P65 Creator则仅配备了RTX 2070 Max-Q的低TDP版本。与之前的型号一样，维护选项基本上不存在。我们的测试单元还继续采用集成在触摸板中的指纹识别器。后者比以前宽得多，因此为手势导航提供了更多空间。

MSI P65 Creator 9SF-657 - 2019-10-25 10/25/2019 v7
Mike Wobker

Chassis

83 / 98 → 84%

Keyboard

81%

Pointing Device

84%

Connectivity

52 / 80 → 66%

Weight

64 / 20-72 → 85%

Battery

69 / 95 → 72%

Display

88%

Games Performance

92 / 90 → 100%

Application Performance

87 / 90 → 97%

Temperature

84%

Noise

81 / 95 → 85%

Audio

74%

Average

78%

85%

Multimedia - Weighted Average

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MSI P65 Creator 9SF (i9-9880H, RTX2070 Max-Q) 笔记本电脑评测

Size Comparison

Display Response Times

Screen Flickering / PWM (Pulse-Width Modulation)

MSI P65 Creator 9SF-657 audio analysis

Apple MacBook 12 (Early 2016) 1.1 GHz audio analysis

Pros

Cons

Verdict - compact multimedia notebook with a lot of power

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